Thursday, November 12, 2015

Thank You, Red Cup


The whole red cup thing is a little crazy. As I understand it, a few of the brethren were up in arms about Starbucks removing Christian Christmas symbolism from their delightfully delicious high-priced java.

Except...they didn't. 

I'll support any and all Christians in the world in their struggles, but this isn't one. I've got a few under my own roof, as a matter of fact (Christians AND struggles). But I don't have any expectations from businesses except for their "business" and I certainly don't feel like they must choose to celebrate a Christian holiday exactly as the Christian community may acknowledge it (in spite of the fact that is IS called "Christ-mas," if that's not your religious bend you might still want coffee and I can see that being important to someone who, say...sells coffee?).

But the red cup complaints were way too far down the road before the first person raised their head and said, "Hey...their cups have always been holiday-neutral (my made-up term)."

Less Christian complaints, more Christian action. There's plenty of real things to worry about. Trust me on this one. And go get a coffee, it's chilly out tonight. Merry Thursday.

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  1. I agree with you--I could NOT care less!!

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    1. Some people...I swear...they need volunteer jobs just to keep people from making mischief.

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  2. I don't care either. That's actually a smart move (one of their few - I have other reasons why I don't visit Starbucks) because if they put Christmas on a cup, then they'd have to do cups for every single holiday - and there are hundreds!

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    1. I would not usually frequent Starbucks but somewhere along the way, my friends got the idea that I do because they always give me Starbucks gift cards...so I use them...which makes me seen in Starbucks...which makes my friends think I like it...which makes them buy me Starbucks cards....

      Of course, now, some of them will see this post, so maybe it is solved. [Disclaimer: I've appreciated the gift cards and Gonzo is now addicted to the Mocha Frappacino...]

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  3. The whole thing is making too much over nothing. The red cups are cheerful!

    Aren't Christmas-themed cups a part of turning Christmas into a commercial event?

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    1. You're exactly right!

      I'd rather fight the battle to keep Christmas after Thanksgiving...

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  4. There are many things we as Christians need to stand up to, but that definitely wasn't one of them.

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    1. These silly things take away from real issuses. If it had merit at all, I'd throw 'em a bone...

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  5. Thank you! You know I love you, right?

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    1. Oh, and I love you so Jacqueline! Truly! (And it's nice to hear.)

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  6. Hey, wait a minute! They removed the snowflakes! Didn't Mary and Joseph go 'Dashing Through the Snow' to Bethlehem dodging snowflakes? And they removed them! Good grief! (Actually, I wonder what all the fuss was about, and if I had started it, I would be dead by now from terminal embarrassment. The cups are elegant. The coffee is better, and would taste good even if it were poured into my cracked, handmade mug...)

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    1. "The little Lord Jesus asleep in the sleigh..." It's a famous Christmas carol.

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  7. haha yeah, only the people who need to whine would whine about such things. no matter their religion whiners are whiners.

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    1. That is true - whether it rhymes or not, right Patt?

      Sometimes, the best thing to do it ignore it - certainly the kindest. :-)

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  8. I love Starbucks!! At least the cups are red which is festive. There are just too many things in the world that are more important to worry about. I don't care what color the cup is- I'm going!
    People are just so offended about everything and that pisses me off. haha!

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    1. Yes, and they DO change the color at Christmas!

      We are in a culture of people with too many toes to step on. I see that as a sign of excess. If people had real problems, they wouldn't focus on these things.

      Of course, my blog niche is totally about looking at things that catch my attention...much like a dog with ADHD...only old and without fleas...

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  9. The thing I find fascinating is that one person complained loudly on behalf of the entire Christian community. WELL... that lit everyone up.

    The non-Christians assumed this dimwit actually represented every Christian alive.

    The Christians came out in droves on social media to say that they don't give a toot about Starbucks cups.

    I'm inclined to believe the droves of folks who don't care about the cup actually are more representative of what Christians think on this matter.

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    1. I think you're right that most don't care NOW.

      Don't you hate it when multitudes of people do great good works and one silly person gets the attention for something crazy? And they think he/she represents us all?

      I like the ones who jumped on that bandwagon, actually thought about what they were doing, then quickly did an about-face and jumped off. It gives me hope for humanity.

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  10. I totally agree with you. Sure there are some things I don't like about the commercialization of the Christmas season--decorating before Veterans' Day?, rushing through Thanksgiving, all those things, but Styrofoam cup designs is not big on my list.

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    1. The fact that Veterans Day was glossed over is also a thorn in my side. We owe our veterans our lives and livelihoods.

      But please let me celebrate holidays in order of appearance, ha ha ha.

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    1. You're a man of few words, but they're goodies.

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  12. I wrote a comment that didn't get published....
    It was brilliant, would have brought tears to your eyes.
    but Happiness to your heart !
    hahahahahahahahaha.....

    cheers, parsnip

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    1. Janie used to have issues with that - but I don't moderate in advance! And I didn't delete your brilliance because I love to bask in it's glow. Especially those that bring tears and happiness in the same spot, ha ha ha.

      You're crazy in the best way - love ya!

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    2. It probley was my fault. Brain does not work that great (oxgyen levels) and I think I might have hit the wrong button.
      But it was a fabulous comment as all mine are (in my mind) hahahahahahahahahahaaha

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  13. Such a non issue. So many bogger problems in the world besides the color of a cup.

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    1. So, so true. Yet it caught the attention of the media. I'll never figure it out.

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  14. Okay, here's my "War On Christmas" story that I've already told a million times and will keep on telling. During the late '70s, I was the switchboard operator at the Macy's department store in downtown Topeka. That was during the Dark Ages when the big stores were downtown, and the mall just had Sears and little shops. I was told to answer the phone by saying "Happy Holidays! This is Macy's." No big deal. No one complained that I didn't say Merry Christmas. About seven years ago or so, I got my "retirement" job working part-time at the Macy's in Springfield, Illinois. I usually worked in the section with the Alfred Dunner clothes because old ladies like Alfred Dunner, and I was the only person who could deal with old ladies (all that nursing home time prepared me). Thanksgiving rolled around. We survived Black Friday. At a store staff meeting, a manager told us that when we handed bags to customers (the day of the switchboard operator is long gone), we should say Merry Christmas or whatever we felt comfortable saying. Sometimes I said "Merry Christmas." Sometimes I said "Peace be with you." After Christmas, I continued the Peace be with you. No one ever complained. Customers looked pleased. The War on Christmas was invented by crazy people who aren't happy unless they have something to complain about. I go to Panera. I don't think they change their cups for holidays. Whatever. That's my War on Christmas story, and you'll probably see it again because I won't stop telling it.

    Love,
    Janie (Gonzo, Gonzo, Gonzo, I love you so. Will you be my faux--son?)

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    1. If you gave me a bag and a kind word, I sure wouldn't look that gift horse in the mouth.

      You don't know what people believe and what kind of day they are having. They could be carrying the weight of the world on their shoulders and the last thing I'd want to do is to add to that burden. That would ruin MY holiday spirit as the "giver" in this situation.

      I like your story. Keep 'em coming.

      Now about Gonzo...you know this is going to be hard for him to resist...he's just a boy (say that like Slingblade's Carl). The lure of Florida...and Janie...frolicking in the sun... Those thoughts churn through his head and make it impossible to focus on his work and rehab, they are so enticing. He has, however, agreed to faux-son status for the sake of humanity.

      You're officially MumTwo.

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    2. Keep telling that "War on Christmas" story. I do so want common sense to rear its ugly head again.
      By, calling it a "War" on Christmas REALLY frosts my stones. It diminishes the horror of what REAL war is.

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    3. It does, Al! Sent you a private email message via gmail.

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  15. What? No Christmas / Christian messages on Starbucks cups?! Why, that totally frosts me! I'm gonna start buying Starbucks coffee just so I can quit buying Starbucks coffee.

    Let's see... I think I've only ever had one cup o' joe at a Starbucks. Some nice lady gave me a Starbucks gift card for C*****mas one year and I got my first and only cup of Starbucks coffee with it. Spent the remainder on some sort of goodies to eat.

    I guess I'm pretty un-hip. I just like regular old coffee. Of course, if someone slipped a little "Irish" in it, I'd not complain.

    Loved the "Merry Thursday", Doc Cherdo!

    ~ D-FensDogG
    'Loyal American Underground'

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    1. For the sake of brevity, see the comment I made for Alex J. Cavanaugh re: Starbucks...'cause that goes on to this day.

      This is a pretty big reveal for the Flipside but I knew you'd be honored to be in on it. I DO have a favorite coffee place and there isn't "one" on my side of town - but every stinkin' time I go west of K-town, I stop at DUNKIN DONUTS.

      I like mild coffee. Call me a Java wimp. Go ahead, I dare ya. Scare everyone away from my beloved DD...that just makes for a shorter line.

      I used to take care of an elderly lady who said, "Oh, well...happy donuts..." all the time. Do you know where this came from?? Was it a movie or a slang thing? We all laughed and said it, too, just because she did (and because I hung with a crowd that was fascinated by shiny things).

      Maybe that will be my new tag lin: Happy Donuts. (Hey, that's two big reveals.)

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    2. Nope, I never heard of "Happy Donuts" before.

      I always say: "I only like coffee-flavored coffee and beer-flavored beer."

      You wouldn't know this but the craft beer scene has gotten really outta control. Pumpkin beer? Are you kidding me?!

      There's one called Summer Shandy, with a pronounced lemon flavor to it. I like it! And one of my very favorites is called IPA-395 which includes the flavors of sage and juniper berries. Beyond those two, just beer-flavored beer for me, if you please.

      And I don't even want cinnamon in my coffee. Just plain joe, please, the way God intended it and the way John Wayne drank it. That's good enough for me.

      ~ D-FensDogG

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    3. BONUS TRACK:
      My primary copies of The Holy Bible contain copious margin notes. Most of them are very serious, deep, and important revelations that have come to me through study and assistance from The Holy Spirit.

      But there are places where my sense of humor spilled onto the margins of my Bibles. For example: One of my notes for Genesis 1:11 says, "Note that God made the coffee bean BEFORE creating man!"

      See, God is super-intelligent, and the order of creation was important. How was the newly-created Adam going to wake up if there was no coffee on the Earth?

      ~ D-FensDogG

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    4. Exactly! How would he even WANT to wake up? That's why I wake up. :-)

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  16. It took me three days to figure out why people were protesting by having "Merry Christmas" written on the cups. I have yet to see anyone in Starbucks complain about it because nobody cares as long as you pay for the stupid thing.

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    1. Thank you for the oasis of sanity in an otherwise goofball world. I didn't even understand what the gripe was for days. Then I got permanent smirk-face.

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  17. We're a country of ridiculousness......Silly!!!

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    1. We are! And ridiculous is the loudest voice!

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  18. Interestingly, I never saw anyone protesting the cup except some self-described "evangelist and social media guru" who wanted attention. In fact, I never even saw what he posted about it--just heard people complaining about him and I Googled to see who he was. I guess that guy got the attention he wanted, but he failed in getting even Christians worked up about it because nobody really saw the pictures of snowmen and snowflakes Starbucks usually has on its cups as having anything to do with Christ.

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    1. You have one up on me because I don't know who started it and couldn't grasp the "faux pas" that the complainer was referencing. Then again, you are smarter than me, Stephanie...

      Seriously, for anyone who has real convictions, this was just one of those hold-your-head and look-at-your-feet moments. Or, as they say in OUR neck o' the woods, Stephanie: BLESS THEIR HEARTS.

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    2. If you look really, really close, you can see a snowman in the Nativity scene. He's behind a sheep, I think.

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  19. I tend to support local coffee shops, but it seems this all started by one "RIght-winged Christian Activist" who did a video and off went the war on Christmas (if we want to battle over Christmas, can we at least wait till Thanksgiving like we use to do with music and sales?). And the fact that they never had "Christian" Christmas cups makes this even more bizarre... The red cups are classy.

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    1. They are definitely festive and we can write whatever we want on it with a marker. Now I have to think of what I want mine to say...I think it would say, "I wish this were Dunkin Donuts' coffee." Not in the holiday spirit, but truthful.

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    2. Must find the video of the comedian who stops by Dunking Donuts first so he can drink coffee while standing in line for Starbucks.
      It is a hoot !

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    1. Brother Watson, the spirit moved me to speak...and smirk...and shake my head.

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  21. I read this yesterday and then forgot to reply! I think it's ridiculous about having a red cup but nothing on it. I may not be religious but for heaven's sake it is Christ's Mas! I agree with you. I celebrate it and not with Disney crap but actually with a nativity, village scene, Christmas Tree-the whole works! If people want to celebrate their own holidays and place it everywhere we can see, I say go for it! Please don't tell me that I can't do the same. Oh, I never go to Starbucks-too expensive and I am not a coffee drinker anyway. Plus I just watched MarketPlace (Canadian Show) where they uncovered that both Starbucks and Tim Hortons do not recycle their cups! It looks like they do but it gets placed all the garbage

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    1. We don't even have a Tim Horton's in my neck of the woods; I think we need one.

      But biz-ness is biz-ness and religion is religion and never the two should mix. So, I don't care what is on their cup and it's amazing that ANYONE did.

      Hope you're having a nice weekend, buddy!

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    1. In spite of my moderation, I agree with everything you said, Al! Keep the thought going (I remove language stuff because of the age span of readers...I got some young 'uns who follow and I ere on the safe side).

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    2. Totally understandable and admirable! Now I'm curious what I said.
      Given the events in Paris, the red cup silliness is even sillier, huh?

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    3. I didn't say THAT word, did I?
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    4. I can forgive you anything, Al... And you're right - the cup is totally silly and that's MY point. I don't know where these people come from who want to stir up stuff.

      Thank you for understanding my editing. It wasn't the worst of the worst at all, ha ha.

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    5. Quite often, an idea for a post just "pops" into my head. And, more than once, that idea comes from my interactions with other bloggers. You, my friend, have inspired my next post, "Manners, Please." I learned something here.
      I may write it tonight. Unless I work on my book. Which, actually, is essentially finished.

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    6. Boy, I hope that is a good thing, ha ha.

      Usually when something pops in my head, it's a blood vessel. :-)

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    7. The post is written and it's on delay until tomorrow. Thank you. I needed a little inspiration. All I had for the next post was a picture of a wristwatch (which I'll still use).

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    8. Ironically, I have dedicated tomorrow's post to you, too. :-)

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  23. I don't understand all this fuss. It's just a cup. There are more important things to worry about!

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    1. Then we are in agreement! It's crazy.

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  24. Between the upcoming religious holiday turmoil and the elections, I'm half afraid to go on FB or visit people's blogs anymore. Just when you think you know someone, they post something intolerant and hateful that shows you a whole new (and ugly) side of them. Gives me a headache just thinking about it...

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    1. Yeah, I'm with you on that one. I've had some real surprise. Can't we all just get along?

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  25. I've heard that it was a YouTube evangelist that created the foofaraw (that how you spell it?) looking for attention. Whatever, it's silly.

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  26. At this point, they put my Chia Tea Latte in a black cup and I'll still drink it... and yes, I'm a Christian.

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    1. I don't go to Starbucks for religion, so we're good. It would be weird if I did.

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  27. The red cup controversy doesn't affect me much other than get me thinking about it in a minor way. I rarely go to Starbucks anyway unless I'm traveling and even then my budget draws me more towards McDonald's where my wife and I like the coffee better anyway and pay less for it.

    I guess the discussion is a good way to bring Jesus into daily conversation, but maybe the concept shouldn't be dwelt on too much.

    Arlee Bird
    Wrote By Rote

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    1. I'd rather believe Jesus was brought into the conversation by the person holding the cup buying someone else a coffee.

      And in all cases, whether Christian or not, I'd like to think that we wouldn't look for reasons to disagree. The world is tough enough as it is.

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    2. Would Jesus drink Decaf?
      I wouldn't think so.

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  28. I don't go to Starbucks, I usually go to Tim Horton's when I feel like having a coffee out with a friend, so this is something I wasn't aware of. Thanks for sharing, dear Cherdo.

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    1. Once again...we need a Tim Horton's! I may have to move to Canada.

      This issue is a non-issue, basically.

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  29. There are far more important things in my life that I need to worry about than what goes on a fricken coffee cup from an overpriced cup of mud!!

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  30. I just checked my calendar and the War on Christmas can't officially start until after Thanksgiving anyway.

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  31. Yes, very true. The whole red cup thing is silly. Frankly, my conspiracy theory is that it's political. I think it's calculated backlash from a handful conservatives who took issue with Starbucks' attempt to say "please dont bring guns in starbucks in open carry states."

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  32. I really do wonder about people who get all bent out of shape over a cup. Like how do they function on a day to day basis?

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Thanks for your personal yada, yada, yada,
Love, Cherdo